VMG4927-B50A in bridge mode disables admin login

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mss1911
mss1911 Posts: 4 image  Freshman Member
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I've been using the VMG42927-B50A stably in bridge mode for a year now, (It is the DSL bridge to a Mikrotik router which is the backbone of my homelab) and overall it does its job quietly and without complaint, and I have no issues. Except for one minor nagging complaint:

Once the Zyxel is put into bridge mode, GUI admin login becomes disabled! I can only re-login again by doing a factory reset. The GUI login webpage at 192.168.1.1 does, in fact, load just fine in my browser. But using "admin" and either the default password (or one that I reset it to), it fails the login with "Incorrect password" every time. It doesn't seem to be an actual incorrect password issue though. It's not a captcha issue, and it's not an issue of plugging into the correct ethernet/LAN port (I've tried them all). I understand the web interface login is disabled when a telnet session is in use, but that's not the case. In fact, telnet and ssh time out if I try to log in that way (nmap reports that ports 22 and 23 are filtered). My firewall is permissive for these scenarios, so that's not the issue either.

99.9% of the time, I have no need to log in to the device, so usually this isn't a problem. But once in a while, I need/want to log in directly to check some network diagnostics as close to the source as possible. And if I wanted to reconfigure it out of bridge mode without resetting the device, I'm out of luck. It's annoying to have to factory reset and re-configure it just to login, for multiple obvious reasons…

Is this intended behavior, that admin login is disabled when the device is in bridge mode? If not, is this a known issue? Is there a firmware update that addresses this? Am I overlooking something silly? I searched the device manual but found no clues.

Thanks!

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  • bahecz44120
    bahecz44120 Posts: 100 image  Ally Member
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    set your laptop or pc with static IP to same subnet as 192.168.1.1 and you can access to GUI under bridge mode.

  • mss1911
    mss1911 Posts: 4 image  Freshman Member
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    I'm wondering if you saw the part where I wrote, "The GUI login webpage at 192.168.1.1 does, in fact, load just fine in my browser," because I already connect to it with a static IP on the 192.168.1.1/24 subnet. Accessing GUI login page is not the problem. Getting the GUI login page to accept any login/password combination is the problem. I think that all logins become disabled in bridge mode, and the only way to login is to do a hardware reset of the device. And then magically, the admin login/password suddenly start working again! (Until I put it back in bridge mode)

  • Peter2
    Peter2 Posts: 178 image  Master Member
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    You can define a new extra interface group for your modem for VDSL binded to a Lan Port eg reserve Lan1 that is used for uplink as Modem to your Router WAN Port . Then login over Wlan or the other Lan ports for bridged Router as Modem to GUI .

  • mss1911
    mss1911 Posts: 4 image  Freshman Member
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    Hi Peter2,

    Thanks for replying with your suggestion. Before I do yet another hardware reset on my router, could you please perhaps explain how your method would solve a login authentication issue? (i.e. the GUI tells me "password is incorrect")

  • Peter2
    Peter2 Posts: 178 image  Master Member
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    Of course i cant do this because i dont have your situation .

    You can try out or not . If you dont know how to realize it you should tell it instead of being critical .

    If you install it succesfull you can get a way to have a look into the bridged modem at work .

    With this bridged Modem-Router - with 4 Lan ports that you can separate - you are in a better situation compared to a simple Modem that has only one Lan port …

  • mss1911
    mss1911 Posts: 4 image  Freshman Member
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    Thank you again for your kind consideration.

    • "Of course i cant do this because i dont have your situation ."

    I think there is an honest misunderstanding. I was not asking you to actually try this yourself, of course that is not possible. Instead: I was just honestly curious why your suggestion to try a network layer 2 & 3 (i.e. data link / IP layer) tactic could solve an authentication issue into the router's GUI.

    Again, I have no problem to access the GUI login page via HTTP. Instead, authentication is the problem, and I suspect the reason is that bridge mode disables all accounts. But if my assumption is invalid, I am hoping for someone to educate me. I think people keep thinking I am having problems accessing 192.168.1.1, but that is not what I am saying.

    • "You can try out or not ."

    Several other people depend on this internet connection here, so I have only limited chances to explore this, since resetting the modem interrupts everybody else's internet connection here. Then they get grumpy at me :) So, it behooves me to learn as much as I can first, to prepare for my limited opportunities to troubleshoot this.

    • "If you dont know how to realize it you should tell it instead of being critical ."

    I did not intend to say anything critical. I am just curious why this explanation would fix it. I find it of utmost importance to understand "why," not just "how" :) If you could explain the reasoning to me, I would be very grateful.

    Thank you again!

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