Strange log message. Is this an error?

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  • peos42
    peos42 Posts: 22  Freshman Member
    First Comment Friend Collector
    edited January 3

    Hi @Zyxel_Judy

    Now… I have two different PoE log errors logged in this thread. 

    First log error:
    “Port Detection Status is Searching”
    “Port Detection Status is Delivering Power”

    Result of first log error:
    The two actual ports did not flap down and up again
    Attached units did not reboot
    Attached units did not drop traffic

    Second log error 30 days later:
    “PoE power usage exceeds 95% threshold, remaining power is 0.0W”
    “PoE power usage is less than 95% threshold, remaining power is 324.6W”
    (ONE second between these messages)

    Result of second log error:
    No PoE powered devices got problems or was powered down
    Attached unit did not reboot
    Attached unit did not drop traffic

    This second PoE error has been seen before in march by two other persons. You offered a RMA for that person at that time, but he rejected it with the argument “Given that you couldn't replicate the problem and therefore have no fix, a replacement may suffer from the same issue.” (I did chat with one of the two that have seen this log with high PoE usage in the forum chat). To note is that he has not seen this message again.


    As it is simply impossible during these circumstances that the power draw would go from my std approx 49W to momentarily over 95% of the switch max 375W which would be an increase of more than 7 times normal power usage, it must be either a hardware issue or a software bug. But… As no problem at all was seen with power or actual traffic on the switch ports, well, that could lead to not suspect hardware, but software/firmware!

    As this switch model has been around for a while and this log message has be up in the forum before with at least two different persons except me, I do wonder why you do not go through the firmware code and look at what in the code that actually triggers this log message. Just to offer an RMA when you have no clue if the same log message will/can appear again in the new replaced hardware, well, that bothers me… Just a response with “we are unable to replicate that problem” and offer an RMA, that bothers me. 

    I do very much appreciate that you took the time to look into the switch, but I am not satisfied with that you take it so easily.

    I will in this case not go on with an RMA as I have not had any real issues except the log messages that you cannot explain. But if I will see any more of this log messages I will probably try to move away from this switch and replace it with something else. I.e send it back to where I bought it. It is simply too much for me with two different PoE log errors directly after moving to this Zyxel switch that you cannot explain and take so easily.

    B t w… My switch has Hardware Version: V1.19. Do you have any newer hardware revision?

  • Zyxel_Judy
    Zyxel_Judy Posts: 1,678  Zyxel Employee
    Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 2 - Nebula Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 2 - Switch Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 2 - Security Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 1 - Nebula

    Hi @peos42 ,

    Thank you for sharing your concerns. We recommend initiating an RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization) process for the following reasons:

    1. Your case presents an unusual situation where the Port Detection Status shows "Searching" or "Delivering Power," yet there are no apparent service impacts or practical issues.
    2. Since we cannot replicate the problems on our end, the issues may be specific to your device. A detailed examination of the hardware would help us identify any underlying problems.

    To move forward, could you implement the RMA process and please provide us with: Device MAC address, Serial number, RMA number (via private message). Once we receive your device, our team will conduct a thorough investigation of the reported issues.

    Please note that V1.19 is currently the latest hardware revision version.

    Would you like to proceed with the RMA process? We're here to assist you with initiating it if needed.

    Judy

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  • peos42
    peos42 Posts: 22  Freshman Member
    First Comment Friend Collector
    edited January 7

    Do you have any on-site fix/replace if paying for it?
    How long will the RMA take?
    How will my existing CLI license be added to the new device?
    Is it possible to have another switch in advance? I can pay for en extra switch and get a refund when you receive the RMA unit.

    PS
    I asked above…." I do wonder why you do not go through the firmware code and look at what in the code that actually triggers this log message.". Again… what in the firmware code will cause these log messages? Line voltage fluctuation? Is it possible for you to reveal what and how the triggers in firmware causes these log messages?
    * “Port Detection Status is Searching”
    * “Port Detection Status is Delivering Power”
    * “PoE power usage exceeds 95% threshold, remaining power is 0.0W”

  • Zyxel_Judy
    Zyxel_Judy Posts: 1,678  Zyxel Employee
    Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 2 - Nebula Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 2 - Switch Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 2 - Security Zyxel Certified Network Engineer Level 1 - Nebula

    Hi @peos42 ,

    Do you have any on-site fix/replace if paying for it?

    No, there are no local repair process in EMEA.

    How long will the RMA take?

    The turnaround time in EMEA is 10 working days

    How will my existing CLI license be added to the new device?

    Once you request RMA#, local support will help you to transfer the license.

    Is it possible to have another switch in advance? I can pay for en extra switch and get a refund when you receive the RMA unit.

    EMEA could change this case to pre-swap type, and you don’t need to extra payment.

    The following is an explanation of the log in general.

    • “Port Detection Status is Searching”

    This log is generated when a Powered Device (PD) is disconnected from the port.

    • “Port Detection Status is Delivering Power”

    This log is generated when a Powered Device (PD) is connected to the port and starts receiving power.

    • “PoE power usage exceeds 95% threshold, remaining power is 0.0W”

    This log is triggered when the total PoE power consumption exceeds the 95% threshold of the switch’s capacity. This is expected behavior to notify the user when available power becomes critically low.

    For your case, we will need to receive your device for further investigation.

    Judy

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